HERC: Carolyn, all through human history, we’ve been wrong about equality, and we thought we were right. All men are equal – except slaves, obviously. Oh, no, wait! All men are equal, except black ones, obviously. No! No, wait! All people are equal, except women, obviously. Look, are you not at all curious about what we’re still getting wrong? And don’t you think there’s a good chance it’s: “all lives are equal, except animals, obviously”?
CAROLYN: That’s an eloquent argument.
HERC: Thank you.
CAROLYN: I mean it’s childish, specious, and the bit where you compare animal rights with universal suffrage is frankly offensive, but it’s superficially eloquent.